New Technologies
The Centro Force Redesign:
Undeniable Proof of improvements in measurements... No euphoric word fluffs, like other sites who sell based on how convincing they write. Below are recorded actual results.
Centro-Force, a "True Technical Upgrade", in two stages :
1st Stage- Ground breaking implementation of 4 stage Plural magnetic core, engineered specifically for the driver’s excursion.
All measurable aspects of driver performance has been improved. This advanced multi-element core is designed to last indefinitely, longer than the lifetime of the headphone, without any parameter change or loss in efficiency and exacting performance. Upcoming kits (for technically inclined) available now!
Frontal redesign:
2nd Stage, New rear design :
A new rear “Acoustic reinforcement waveguide cavity” design, for uniformly reshaping the audible spectrum.. This computer designed rear piece boosts Frequency response, increasing BASS. A true acoustic fix for increased BASS!


This engineering distinction is that this is not a "material tuning" ...
These are actual structural changes
Technical Specifications:
HD800 & 800S CF Measured Results below:
For greater familiarity to consumers, the below results are displayed on the popular "REW" program:


Along with the overall massive increase of the low range (in blue), we also restored more liveliness in the 5-6khz area (less dip), along with a more uniform upper range treble area for more true sounding instruments like cymbals.
**HD800S-CF Improved Frequency Response (blue):
Next, the CSD/Waterfall plots:
Standard measurement of Stock HD800S, about 35db down:




key points:
**The peak rise time both before & after the "0u" mark is reduced. This faster impulse time means increased speed and resolution.
**After the peak wave shows reduced artifacts & basket reflections = well controlled decay.
All these measurements above, are our proof of the "Centro-Force" Upgrade improvements.
We are confident that you will hear the noticeable improvements to the sound, and agree this is simply not another sound profile, which all past versions and mods have been.
Lastly, the 800CF mod (in blue) impulse response:
First off, the Bass:
On 800CF a 9db increase @ 10hz (5db increase on 800S). While this extreme sub bass area isn't evident in actual music (normal mid-bass frequencies are around 60 HZ), this increase represents the scale of "improved mechanical control" and performance.


"Before and after" of the older HD800 version, showing similar improvements of ringing decays above 2.5khz, which are all gone with the "CF" Mod.
The lack of all ringing (trailing peaks) after 1.5 milliseconds of depth, leads to insane level of clarity and pin-point imaging.
Both 800CF & 800S-CF retain a new sustained increase of 4-5db across the "bass to mids" region, attributed to the new rear design.
The cumulative amount represents an increase of over 72% of the overall bass spectrum.


The thin drawn vertical red lines marked over the peak trails, represent multiple rows of lower-level "ringing" in multiple frequency areas.
This audibly translates to the infamous "diffuse soundstage" and "artificial spaciousness" that plagued these headphones, resulting in a less focused images as a result.
These rows are about 25-30dB down, which is easily discernible to the human ear (as diffuse sound), because the human ear sensitivity typically hears details 60-70db below sound peaks. This sensitivity is even more noticeable with headphones, and even more so with IEMs.
This is where the "Centro-Forcce" mod distinguishes itself from ALL other modifications, with the elimination(!) of these ringing (peak trails), to produce a clarity of notes in space, that was unachievable anywhere before:
HD800S-CF version:




Notice only the thin red horizontal lines are drawn, as there are no vertical rows of peaks. This shows just the bass gradually sloping diagonally with little ripple, unlike the stock image ripples.
The result is a much clearer/deeper soundstage, with nuances in music instruments more "fleshed out".
"Before & after" comparison:


Measurement System Used
How we attained our measurements...
Many modern measurement rigs have a difficulty with accuracy issues above 8k, due to their "ear pinna couplers" being sensitive to microphone placement. This contributes to "Non-compensatable" artifacts, so we specifically address this with our own "hybrid coupler", used here.
Our Measurement rig has been modeled closely to the "Brüel & Kjær Type 5128" (BK 5128), wich we believe is best choice for headphones, and then further optimized to show a "more reliable" extention of response to 20khz, while being less "busy" or having less "non-compensatable" (non-audible) treble data results, that the newer rigs display.
Here is an HD800S measurement from a reliable/trusted source, using the BK5128:


Here is our measurement system (in yellow) of HD800S for comparison.


Our rig measures further into the bass and trebles extremes, and the trebles looks like an avg of the BK's response, which is what we feel is more approximate to what the human ear would actually hear.
The treble range beyond 9khz in any system should be regarded as an "approximate reference" rather than an absolute measurement, so its impressive that our rig is averaged to be very close.
FAQs
Will kits be made available?
AVAILABLE NOW !
Also Bulk order discounts!
Who is this for?
Audiophiles desiring "end-game" sound quality, higher than what the current HD800S can offer.
Where can I buy Centro-Force headphones?
FRONT PAGE
You also can order a NIB unit from Authorized dealership on front Page.
You can also email (limited time only) for custom install.

Contact for further info
Contact
whitigir@yahoo.com
ABOUT US:
We are Enthusiast, listening to Music is our hobby. We too are chasing what we love. The headphones that can reproduce everything in the Recording, but as Natural as Possible. That also means that it has to be as palpable, musical and as real as possible. Most of the time, people associate Neutral signature to be References and lacking of Bass or Musical.
In our Opinions, References is just as Realistic/Natural as possible. For all that said, We have experience with so many different headphones/Desktop/Portable alike. We opted for HD800 for how Natural and Neutral it is. But the HD800/800s are now considered Ancient. Newer Headphones have been released yearly which was motivated by the HD800/800S. However, We have always wished for the 800/800S to be able to be More. How about the Dynamic of Utopia, staging of the 800/800s for starter ? And so our quest began!
For many years, others have tried to find ways to improve the 800/800s, but our work has never been done before. Improving many things while compromises Nothings. With the collaboration between us, we both have very open minded and thinking outside the box with the ultimate goals of bringing the 800/800s to newer Heights.
Finally, we arrived at Something that truely improved Sub-Bass/Mid Bass, while keeping mids as close to stock as possible, and cleaning up the high frequencies (phase shifts & other issues which causing the Spikes). Yet those annoyances and distortions were limitations that were resolved by also controlling the High Spectrum to be as Linear as possible and extending all the way to 22Khz.
In the ends, we have achieved more Pronounced Bass, natural mids, clarity, airiness, and detailed highs like never before, with greater soundstage, Dynamic, Linearity and flawless Impulses Responses. No words can express enough of how fruitful the Centro-Force is from the results of our hard work. The one thing we are so sure of is that, if we enjoy it this much, so will you.
